Let us speak today of the things that have largely gone unreported
The Italian trial against dozens of CIA agents for the Bush administration’s rendition and torture policies? Perhaps the English labels on Iranian bombs? Or even the disturbing admission of some Texas state senators that they do not believe the earth revolves around the sun?
War and more war, but no details, nothing that shows more lives to be lost, more people adversely affected, keeping it broad and open but when you look for facts they are easily available and that is what troubles me. Kidnapping and lots of cases of it and to the idiotic minds out there its not even a crime, the defence of the american homeland out wieghs all things
This started in 93, snatches as they were known we
were operations to apprehend terrorists abroad, usually without the knowledge of and almost always without public acknowledgement of the host government.... 1993, was not the first but its a nice place to start as I get to attack clinton the White House Counsel, Lloyd Cutler, demanded a meeting with the President to explain how it violated international law. Clinton had seemed to be siding with Cutler until Al Gore belatedly joined the meeting, having just flown overnight from South Africa. Clinton recapped the arguments on both sides for Gore: Lloyd says this. Dick says that. Gore laughed and said, "That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass."
Heres the official speak for yer
"If we do not receive adequate cooperation from a state that harbors a terrorist whose extradition we are seeking, we shall take appropriate measures to induce cooperation. Return of suspects by force may be effected without the cooperation of the host government, consistent with the procedures outlined in NSD-77, which shall remain in effect
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Why the american gov hates the UN
1. No State Party shall expel, return ("refouler") or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.
2. For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights.
There have been hundreds of cases and things are starting to unravel, bits and pieces of stories are turning in to bigger stories and it turns out that terrible things have gone on . Nerds in britain, plane spotters have been recording the movements of these planes
we have 23 CIA agents wanted in Italy for kidnapping an Egyptian cleric, is this the Euro's mixing openly and freely with the islamofacist threat or is it governments already procesecuting other legit terrorists of an arab like nature.
Spain to has requested US citizens to appear as has England, germany & france. I can imagine the typical responce they recieved theres a model. Whatever USUKdoes is legit. Like labelling all muslims as you know whats. Im sick of the bloody word. What we say is right just and the american way, england you can go get fucked but we need your 7000 troops. oh whats that your pulling out? fuck you to then.
So whats the official line from the US responding to mounting European concerns, Condi Rice said: "Renditions take terrorists out of action, and save lives," and she explained rendition is not unlawful. While Rice denied that the CIA used torture, of course shes fucking lying and knows it.
. torture and its fruits" could not be used in court. English law lord > Yank law lords. America agrees with this so it wont allow detainees to be tried
Rep. Ike Skelton D-Mo., who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, said he is concerned about whether military hearings offer detainees the legal protections and will launch a congressional review.
"The last thing that we would want is to convict an individual for terrorism and then have that conviction overturned because of fatal flaws in the Military Commissions law passed in the previous Congress," he said.
Jonathan Hafetz, an attorney at the Brennan Center for Justice, said the ruling sends the wrong message about justice to U.S. citizens and the international community.
"It's a terrible ruling that contradicts centuries of Anglo-American history and allows the indefinite detention of innocent people without charge or judicial review," he said.
The Iranian proposal for negotiations, which suggested that Iran was willing to consider far-reaching compromises on its nuclear program, relations with Hezbollah and Hamas and support for a Palestinian peace agreement with Israel as part of a larger peace agreement with the United States, has become a contentious issue between the Bush administration and its critics in and out of Congress.
One moment we see the trial of Dick Cheney's former deputy, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, revealing how the administration sought to discredit critics of the plans to invade Iraq; the next we see them discrediting critics of their plans to attack Iran. On one page, newly released documents reveal how the defence department contorted evidence to justify bombing Baghdad; on the next, the administration is using suspect evidence to justify bombing Iran
The administration, of course, denies this. Despite the fact it has ordered oil reserves to be stockpiled and has just sent a second aircraft carrier as well as more patriot missiles and minesweepers to the Gulf, they swear these allegations are groundless. Robert Gates, the new defence secretary, recently insisted: "I don't know how many times the president, secretary [of state Condoleezza] Rice and I have had to repeat that we have no intention of attacking Iran."
Justice dept firings involved GOP investigations
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/20/21516/3120
Mccain- Rumsefeld worst sec def in history.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/20/AR2007022000365.html
Torture Pilots
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/19/155048/609
Detainees cannot be tried in US courts
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070220/ap_on_go_su_co/detainees_lawsuits;_ylt=AqyKaDlABWHQ.8dNUGmme.is0NUE
Inside Iran
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4679426685869498072
US ignored peace negotians offer from Iran
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/porter.php?articleid=10535
Veneuzula gearing up for war
http://www.worldpoliticswatch.com/article.aspx?id=555
Al gore on kidnapping
http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2005/11/al-gore-was-for-extraordinary.html
Bush continues to lie about iran
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/bush-admits-that-he-lied-about-iran.html
USA set to attack Iran
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/20/155035/633
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5 comments:
So many American’s live in a world of propaganda and mainstream media fuelled fantasy. How can so many US citizens state that Bush is great, WMD was found in Iraq, America is a force for good, Saddam supported Al-Qaeda, Iraq planned 9/11, Iraq is now free, America is only hated because people envy their great freedom, etc. etc.
When the American people discover that their way of life, long held freedoms, national wealth, international image, national security, children’s prospects & nations future have all been irreversibly destroyed, they’ll discover that they were so busy looking at fantasy enemies outside their nation, they missed the real threat that ruined America from within.
If a magician needs to use his right hand to manipulate the cards in a cards trick, he diverts your attention to his left hand. He simply tells the audience to closely watch his left hand produce magic. As his left hand waves around & distracts the audience, his right hand swiftly fixes the card deck to set-up the magic deception.
Dick Cheney & his gang use fear like a magician’s left hand. American’s are deliberately distracted with fear. The fear is fuelled by invented terror threats, invisible enemies, false intelligence or framed patsies. More recently, we’ve seen the manipulation of immigrants or poorly educated people in sting operations. Harmless individuals are fooled by covert FBI agents and coaxed into reciting an entrapment script, specifically designed to allow the media to present them as members of an active terrorist cell.
Look how our leaders have acted in response to the terror threat. Anybody defending this is an uneducated fool:
1. Bin Laden hates our freedom - So Bush strips US freedoms and liberties with policies like the Patriot Act
2. Bin Laden wanted to create conflict between Islam and the West – Bush responded by waging several illegal wars against Muslim nations and handed Bin Laden his wish
3. Bin Laden wants American’s & Brit’s to live in constant fear – So Bush & Blair generate fear by constantly telling the UK & US people that they’re going to be attacked again & terrorists will get us.
4. Bin Laden desires the maximum media coverage for Al Qaeda – So Bush & Blair reward Al Qaeda & boost their ego by going on the media almost every day to remind everyone of Al Qaeda’s position as the number 1 terror group in the world. Then to
warn US & UK people of Al Qaeda’s skill, their expertise, their deadliness…. Oh! And not forgetting their ability to outwit our intelligence services at will.
5. Bin Laden warned Muslim nations that the US/UK are evil & immoral fascists that will steal Muslim wealth – Then Bush displays our ‘western values’ by totally ignoring the Geneva Convention, using systematic torture on Iraqi civilians, using cluster bombs on children, dropping banned chemical weapons on civilian villages, by stealing Iraqi oil, by using Iraqi national wealth to hand contracts to Bush’s corrupt buddies.
WAKE-UP WORLD
If American citizens stand back and allow their President to attack Iran, they will be making an unimaginable mistake. Believe me.
i just watched one of your videos on youtube and to be honest i think you are being a little too emotional in your conveyance of your messages.
With regard to the tirade against 9/11 truth movement i will agree to a large extent. People seem too wiling to listen to jokers like alex jones etc. If on the other hand you are a little more informed you will know about www.cooperativeresearch.org who have got a minute by minute timeline from 9/11 which unequivocally proves that there was at least servere negligence, and possibly more. However i shall restrain from trying to convince you. As you seem to wget pretty worked up on the subject. I like you have dealt with and have to deal with some of the nuts that jump on the conspiracy wagon and simply do not know their stuff.
You said you 'deal with information' if this is true then there is no reason not to go and look at the run up to that day. Most of the other things you make video's about i agree with, but you seem to approach the subject of 9/11 with contempt for whatever reson.
You could also go and have a look at this guys work. I am sure you will appreciate it.
http://nafeez.blogspot.com/
www.sanityforsale.wordpress.com
I was poking around on youtube and came across a few of your videos (namely Ted Kennedy's senate speech on minimum wage, and the U.S. being poised to attack Iran) and found them to be quite interesting. I have perused your blog and see that we are pretty much on polar opposite ends of the socio-political spectrum. I would welcome a civil debate with you on the issue of minimum wage if you so desire.
I'm happy to see that you have accepted my invitation for a debate. But before we jump into it i have a few questions...
Is there any particular format to this debate that you would like to follow? I.e. one side opens with a 1000 word constructive argument followed by an opposing 1000 word constructive argument then subsequent rebuttals, or would you rather have this as a casual discussion?
Secondly, what forum would you prefer to have this debate? Would you like have it by exchanging comments on our respective blogs or would you like to do it through e-mail?
I'm usually online quite often but that could change as I have just started a second job. The quickest way to contact me is through e-mail at godismachine@gmail.com
I look forward to your response.
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